Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Flickr is like a Stalinist Regime

Flickr really pissed me off today. Flickr has a mechanism for users to "flag" their photos as either safe, moderate, or restricted. My interpretation of these flags are:

safe: photos of flowers, sunsets, trees, buildings, cars, food, chairs, puppies, rivers, urban scenes, etc.

moderate
: any photo with nudity, like breasts, bums, flaccid male appendages

restricted
: sex acts, pornography, graphic displays of genitals, etc.
So, I have dutifully flagged any photo with nudity as moderate. Since I have no photos of people crashing the custard truck, I have nothing flagged as restricted. A couple of my photos, from a recent Toronto Pride Day parade, do feature male frontal nudity. I flagged these as moderate.

It's important to note that Flickr allows people to alter their search preferences. So, if you only want to see safe photos, you leave your preferences as safe. There are three settings:
SafeSearch on: You'd prefer to see photos and video that is safe for a global, public audience.

SafeSearch moderate: You're OK seeing the odd "artistic nude" here or there, but that's the limit.

SafeSearch off: You're over 18, and take full responsibility that you're comfortable to see whatever turns up.
As far as I am concerned, I flagged my photos appropriately. But, like the good old days of Joseph Stalin, when someone turns you in, you get punished. Someone, who had changed their search settings to moderate, reported me to the Flickr secret police, who then flagged two photos as restricted without any consultation with me. These are photos that have been viewed more than 22,000 times and 5,000 times respectively, and only one person complained.

I am upset because Flickr has a means for people to self-moderate photostreams, but they can intervene at any time to dictate morality. Here is the guidance Flickr offers when flagging photos:
Safe - Content suitable for a global, public audience

Moderate - If you're not sure whether your content is suitable for a global, public audience but you think that it doesn't need to be restricted per se, this category is for you

Restricted - This is content you probably wouldn't show to your mum, and definitely shouldn't be seen by kids
This sounds like my original interpretation and like the description in the safe search settings. So, why the hell did the Flickr Politburo change my settings? Because 0.0045% of the people who have viewed one of these photos was offended. In the USSR, under Mr. Stalin, all it took was one person out of millions to point the finger.

The thing that really bothers me is that my mother would have no problem seeing either photo, and neither would my kids. In fact, they saw the real thing at the parade. It's the freaking puritanical US of A that pisses me off. You can watch someone's head being blown off on prime time broadcast television, but show a breast and you have a date with the FCC.

I think we should all adhere to local standards. In Ontario, for example, it is legal for a woman to be topfree in public. She need not fear any oppression from the patriarchy (well, she might suffer some sexual oppression, but legally, she can bare those breasts). Of course, in the puritanical USA, it is illegal for women to be topfree in most states. So, if it is legal for a woman to exercise her topfree rights, then these photos ought to be permitted as safe or moderate. If the city permits men to march nude in a parade, then these photos ought to be considered as safe or moderate, and certainly not resticted.

End of rant.

P.S. My flickr account is not listed under my Zydeoc Fish alias, but my real name. 

9 comments:

A said...

I can understand how someone doing a moderate SafeSearch might find those pictures offensive and want them to be restricted because maybe their interpretation of the flags differs from your own. However, Flickr doesn't have to be a fascist about it.

A said...

I do agree with your last two paragraphs though. Very good point.

tweetey30 said...

Well said ZF.. That must suck for you having them restrict your photo.. I dont use flickr or any thing else involving the internet.. I down load my photo onto my blog from my computer or myspace page or Facbook.

ShellyS said...

This is why I think "moderate" is a poor option. There should be "safe" and "restricted" only, because interpretation is everything.

I've always thought of moderate as sexual positions/poses but no full nudity/no genitalia showing. Restricted is when all the clothes come off.

For the artistic shot, I usually think revealed breasts might be moderate, but both male and female lower body showing is restricted. But because some people think breasts should be restricted, I'd always err on the side of caution.

The issue is always a problem with self-monitoring. Some people will err on one side and others on the opposite depending on their comfort levels.

I'd have to check flickr's TOS but I think it says they can change the setting at their discretion. It's been a while since I read the fine print.

The more popular a site gets, the less warm fuzzies with the users, it seems, but I've come to expect it with pretty much every online site I use.

Right now, with 20,000 photos on flickr and a pro account, I'm more worried about Yahoo being sold or them selling off flickr. Who knows what the next owners will be like, should that happen.

Liz said...

For me personally I would want the difference in the setting to be what is going on the images rather than what body parts are exposed. I guess that's sort of in line with your interpretation except that there are other things besides fucking that I would think are too graphic and should restricted. Violence and degradation. fall into that category.

ShellyS said...

Liz, I agree about the violence. The activity is as much a factor as the subject. And since each person has his or her preferences or things that offend or bother them, that's a lot to take into consideration.

mister anchovy said...

Did you have any trouble getting 'reactions' to work on your blog? I tried to set it up, but it doesn't appear and I can't figure out why. It must be the blog gods telling me not to bother with it.

Super Happy Jen said...

I hears somewhere that Americans are more likely to censure nudity and sex, while Canadians are more likely to censure violence. Make love not war, that's our motto (when it comes to our rating systems)

zydeco fish said...

mister anchovoy: I had no trouble with reactions at all, and it seems to work fine. I am still trying to determine if it is useful, however.